tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post2775698354546728873..comments2023-10-30T11:57:26.749+01:00Comments on SCREENVILLE: 2008 World Cinema StatsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-36392119681308953292009-12-13T14:56:28.680+01:002009-12-13T14:56:28.680+01:00Please check out this later post dedicated to Indi...Please check out this later post dedicated to <a href="http://screenville.blogspot.com/2009/10/regional-industries-in-india-world.html" rel="nofollow">Indian regional industries</a>. If you have more data about the proportion of Indian films by languages or by local industry, in recent years (since 1993) I would gladly complete my graph.HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-54781678102788456732009-12-13T12:31:10.526+01:002009-12-13T12:31:10.526+01:00I am struck in the comments relating to Indian cin...I am struck in the comments relating to Indian cinema by the continual confusion between Indian cinema and Bollywood. A confusion rather encouraged by the statistics that lump all the Indian traditions of cinema together. India, it is true, is the largest producer of films in the world but "Bollywood", that is the Bombay film industry producing films in Hindi is not especially large.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18350537709175682971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-80381046765736835082008-09-18T13:54:00.000+02:002008-09-18T13:54:00.000+02:00Bresson had a rough time too, when nobody wanted t...Bresson had a rough time too, when nobody wanted to fund his projects towards the end of his career... even though he was aknowledged as a master by everyone. But the logic of the (mainstream) market has its own rules, and "quality" is not necessarily a priority (because it is not one for the audience either).<BR/><BR/>Cahiers is still undetermined. The buy out deal was supposed to be known on HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-48060823537686480522008-09-17T17:02:00.000+02:002008-09-17T17:02:00.000+02:00Bollywood is overflowing with money these days. An...Bollywood is overflowing with money these days. And most of these corporates have sprung up their smaller independent Production houses to finance art films- according to them, yet the follow the same basic rules:Stars, songs, and much more or without it- but they would keep calling it art film. Wodner why? And those with big pockets are looking elsewhere much like the sheikh of Abu Dhabi with niteshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03667299083541761990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-39708534040917989512008-09-13T00:50:00.000+02:002008-09-13T00:50:00.000+02:00Anne Thompson at Variety (9-12-2008) Big directors...Anne Thompson at Variety (9-12-2008) <BR/><A HREF="http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117992095.html" REL="nofollow">Big directors turn to foreign investors</A><BR/>"Kathryn Bigelow wanted to tackle a toxic genre: Iraq war movies. Darren Aronofsky wanted to cast a toxic movie star: Mickey Rourke. Steven Soderbergh wanted to make not one, but two two-hour biopics in Spanish.<BR/>All three projects HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-61929735524817928252008-09-05T18:41:00.000+02:002008-09-05T18:41:00.000+02:00After India, the oil tycoons of the Middle East in...After India, the oil tycoons of the Middle East invest in Hollywood too.<BR/><A HREF="http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/03/business/03abudhabi.php" REL="nofollow">International Herald Tribune</A> (9-3-200_)<BR/><A HREF="http://www.lemonde.fr/cinema/article/2008/09/05/abu-dhabi-moteur_1091893_3476.html?xtor=RSS-3476" REL="nofollow">Le Monde</A> (9-5-2008) FRENCHHarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-53462783767081486992008-08-23T08:52:00.001+02:002008-08-23T08:52:00.001+02:00re: Bollywood (which Nitesh talked about)Listen to...re: Bollywood (which Nitesh talked about)<BR/>Listen to this NPR podcast (08-20-2008, <A HREF="http://podcastdownload.npr.org/anon.npr-podcasts/podcast/510282/93891464/npr_93891464.mp3" REL="nofollow">MP3</A>, starting from 10'45"), about the development of Bollywood distribution in the American market, and the Spielberg/Clooney-backed project of a Bollywood-friendly distributor cum Theatre-chainHarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-75706501277190298682008-08-19T09:01:00.000+02:002008-08-19T09:01:00.000+02:00More Stats and neat graphs at NationMaster.com, an...More Stats and neat graphs at <A HREF="http://www.nationmaster.com/cat/med-media&all=1" REL="nofollow">NationMaster.com</A>, and also correlation with other easy stats (per capita, GDP, energy, gender, age of population...) :<BR/><BR/>- <A HREF="http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_cin_att-media-cinema-attendance" REL="nofollow">Cinema attendance worldwide</A> / <A HREF="http://HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-66045573864975806292008-07-09T00:28:00.000+02:002008-07-09T00:28:00.000+02:00Finally Cahiers put up a page on their website for...Finally Cahiers put up a <A HREF="http://www.cahiersducinema.com/article1634.html" REL="nofollow">page</A> on their website for the Atlas 2008 (so I can link to it)!HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-16743277185637004592008-06-03T15:59:00.000+02:002008-06-03T15:59:00.000+02:00Notes on Indian cinema sub-genres and underground ...Notes on Indian cinema sub-genres and underground market at <A HREF="http://www.girishshambu.com/blog/2008/06/cinema-revulsion.html" REL="nofollow">Girish</A>HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-67336092889320705562008-05-31T11:30:00.000+02:002008-05-31T11:30:00.000+02:00Anne Thompson at Variety (May 30, 2008) addresses ...Anne Thompson at <I>Variety</I> (May 30, 2008) addresses the hot topic :<BR/><A HREF="http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117986628.html" REL="nofollow">Subtitled films seek to break mold</A><BR/>"When Picturehouse opens summer counterprogrammer "Mongol," Sergei Bodrov's Oscar-nominated action bio-epic, on June 6, it will put to the test the conventional wisdom that foreign-language movies don't HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-34880732511091915932008-05-26T09:19:00.000+02:002008-05-26T09:19:00.000+02:00The NYT on Cannes 2008 :"In recent years some of t...The <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/movies/26cann.html?ex=1369454400&en=4da01cead1ad1819&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink" REL="nofollow">NYT</A> on Cannes 2008 :<BR/><BR/>"In recent years some of the studios’ art-house subsidiaries have been moving away from acquisition and toward financing and production. For them, leaving Cannes empty-handed was not necessarily a sign thatHarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-52501654170530969582008-05-25T09:22:00.000+02:002008-05-25T09:22:00.000+02:00From the summary of the 2005 world survey by Scree...From the <A HREF="http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/summary_0199-5888543_ITM" REL="nofollow">summary</A> of the 2005 world survey by Screen Daily :<BR/><BR/>"Total screens in the world (2005) = 149,083 (+ 2,734 from 2004)<BR/><BR/>The 1.8% annual growth was led by screen growth in the Americas, where an average of 5% was recorded in both North and South America.<BR/><BR/>Screen growth in Asia HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-27196055500056400672008-05-25T01:15:00.000+02:002008-05-25T01:15:00.000+02:00*********************************************Notes...*********************************************<BR/>Notes on RUNNING SCREENS :<BR/><BR/>Again these numbers are not consistent and are not necessarily representative of all the active screens projecting films in public in these countries. I believe that for the CNC, a screen is only counted if it runs at least 50 shows per year.<BR/><BR/>The first thing we can notice is that we take for granted theHarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-80826315276947230892008-05-24T01:12:00.000+02:002008-05-24T01:12:00.000+02:00*********************************************More ...*********************************************<BR/>More notes on the domestic share stats:<BR/><BR/>If we compare the domestic share ranking with the respective number of domestic films produced, we can spot the ones where the national preference is consistent with a large production at home, and the ones where the audience still prefer imports despite a rich domestic production.<BR/><BR/>For HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-53228402965516767992008-05-22T22:43:00.000+02:002008-05-22T22:43:00.000+02:00Nitesh,what you say about film students is interes...Nitesh,<BR/>what you say about film students is interesting, and it doesn't really surprise me that even French students would prefer to learn from the formulaic Hollywood films that have a commercial potential, rather than to study old classics that the audience doesn't want to see anymore today. They want to learn how to make successful movies, popular movies and are afraid to be trapped in an HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-38268334751256954032008-05-22T01:53:00.000+02:002008-05-22T01:53:00.000+02:00I wonder why people are so put off by subtitles in...I wonder why people are so put off by subtitles in Cinema, since these very lot would go back and spend hours reading subtitle on a Japanese RPG video game! I think more than subtitles its also about the notion of watching a ' foreign' film, since the moment you ment the word ' foreign' other than Hollywood or Bollywood here some very common words come flying into people mind: cryptic, tough, niteshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03667299083541761990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-75596433906513055682008-05-21T08:34:00.000+02:002008-05-21T08:34:00.000+02:00I'm sorry for posting my analysis in the middle of...I'm sorry for posting my analysis in the middle of the conversation. I hope it's not too distracting. I'm not trying to discourage people to comment. It's OK to interrupt any time.<BR/><BR/>Kunal,<BR/>I know the taste and behavior of the mainstream American audience is for a fact. We can't do anything about it. But I wonder why the USA, as the most successful melting-pot in the world, has evolvedHarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-59554194062135151702008-05-20T23:04:00.000+02:002008-05-20T23:04:00.000+02:00"Why the average American audience (the one buying..."Why the average American audience (the one buying the most tickets) would systematically prefer to watch a Hollywood version to a comparable foreign film of the same genre?"<BR/><BR/>You're right that subtitles can be a huge block.<BR/><BR/>One of the reasons I've heard most people cite is that they don't "like" subtitles. I guess this could mean anything from "I can't concentrate on both the Kunal y Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10359654562456332611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-63919312036876821392008-05-19T22:08:00.000+02:002008-05-19T22:08:00.000+02:00To relativise a little the % of foreign films dist...To relativise a little the % of foreign films distribution, let's compare France and USA in actual numbers instead. <BR/><BR/>USA (2007)<BR/><BR/>- 1,330M admissions go to American films (95%)<BR/>- 70M admissions to foreign films (5%)<BR/><BR/>The MPAA doesn't break down the number of films distributed between domestic and foreign (no wonder, it's a negligible portion) but they show a graph of HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-48402614233976420472008-05-18T22:48:00.000+02:002008-05-18T22:48:00.000+02:00Hi Kunal, thanks for visiting and sharing your tak...Hi Kunal, thanks for visiting and sharing your take on this.<BR/><BR/>I totally agree with you, the indie and high-brow market are marginal in ticket sales. I'm not talking about huge-budget productions that only Hollywood can make (like superhero/SciFi/Apocalyptic/epic movies).<BR/><BR/>That's why I bring up the only possible competition to Hollywood : other powerful mainstream and commercial HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-24692654871394228802008-05-18T21:27:00.000+02:002008-05-18T21:27:00.000+02:00Great data and insightful analysis, Harry."So why ...Great data and insightful analysis, Harry.<BR/><BR/>"So why is America so American-centric? Is it because foreign films pale in comparison to the Hollywood quality standards? "<BR/><BR/>While I have no concrete data to account for this fact, here's one possible reason that comes to mind:<BR/><BR/>The perception of films solely as a means of entertainment. <BR/><BR/>I believe this is a huge factorKunalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17909057326847884013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-5547284207629043912008-05-18T20:14:00.000+02:002008-05-18T20:14:00.000+02:00DOMESTIC SHARE :This is the proportion of tickets ...DOMESTIC SHARE :<BR/><BR/>This is the proportion of tickets sold by domestic films in the total of admission sold in that country. <BR/>So it tells us the balance of local v. foreign (successful) films distributed on their screens, and also the preference of these movie goers. This figure could be the result of a policy enforced by administrative regulations (law, quotas, censorship, ban) or justHarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-21962506727386786002008-05-18T19:18:00.000+02:002008-05-18T19:18:00.000+02:00ADMISSIONS :The numbers are hardly reliable except...ADMISSIONS :<BR/><BR/>The numbers are hardly reliable except for a few countries with a bureaucratic counting system. For example what the Cahiers Atlas tells us about India for the past 3 years ranges inconsistently from 500 to 5,000... Same for China. It's a shame we can't get credible data from these countries since they are the largest core of the movie going population on Earth.<BR/><BR/>HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16398571.post-48763776852045362522008-05-18T18:30:00.000+02:002008-05-18T18:30:00.000+02:00WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE 2007 :First, the groups forme...WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE 2007 :<BR/><BR/>First, the groups formed by the MPAA for this survey is really strange and probably tells a lot about this American-centric world view. <BR/>- Northern American (just USA and Canada and no Central America?), by the way the figure is equal to USA alone, so Canada doesn't seem to be even included, it should adds 106 Millions Canadian admissions to the 1.4 HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.com